Courage and Confidence

Bouncing Forwards

Lee Iggulden & Michelle Rogers Season 3 Episode 8

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What's this episode about?

Lee and Michelle take a look at "bouncing back" and ask whether getting back to where we were before is really the goal. Often, it isn't.

Instead, they talk about "bouncing forward": using setbacks to move on rather than slipping back into old habits and old versions of ourselves.

Key topics covered:

  • Why "bouncing back" can keep us stuck in unhelpful loops
  • How lessons we learned when we were younger can hold us back as adults
  • Lee's experience when a house move fell through, and what she gained from it
  • Michelle's story of breaking a pre-exam stress habit that was doing more harm than good
  • The difference between intentional rest and unproductive downtime
  • How self-awareness and evidence of our own capabilities help us move forward
  • Kintsugi, the Japanese art of repairing broken ceramics with gold, as a way of thinking about bouncing forward
  • Why bouncing forward takes courage, confidence and honest self-reflection

Mentioned in this episode:

  • FutureLearn (futurelearn.com), the online learning platform where Michelle first came across the "bounce forward" idea, on a professional resilience course from Deakin University
  • Kintsugi / Kintsukuroi, the Japanese art of repairing broken pottery with gold lacquer
  • William Morris: "Have nothing in your house that you do not know to be useful or believe to be beautiful"

Quotes from the episode:

  • "Bouncing back suggests that where we were before was the right place." Michelle Rogers
  • "Bouncing forwards makes me feel excited. The possibilities are endless." Lee Iggulden
  • "We're not ignoring our struggles. We're using them. Valuing the lessons learned from them to make something even better." Michelle Rogers
  • "It's not broken. It's just been put back together, filled with gold." Lee Iggulden

Reflection question for listeners:

Think of a time you bounced back from something difficult. Does the idea of bouncing forward fill you with dread, or with excitement and optimism?

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